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Got talking about this topic this weekend just wondered what you guys thought.

(Please done vote OR that was my mistake.)

I'd vote for Mr. Video Professor Jack Layton and his NDP Party.

Paul Martin: Stupid Fuktard IMO

Stephen Harper: Useless Tool IMO

Jack Layton: Dumbass Treehugger who doesn't know WTF he's doing IMO.

Gilles Duceppe: Good politician, wrong agenda IMO.

I'd vote NDP if I were the type who didn't learn from his past mistakes. It's not the Politicians that are screwed up in the NDP, it's the whole bloody socialist ideals that they try to implement without first consideration of the cost.

Which leaves two options, liberal or PC...

And as much as I hate the PC for wasting so much of our time and money on no better task than booting the liberals out, I think the liberals need to be punished.

oh hell, we're screwed regardless, I'm voting bloc.

darkpuppet,Nov 14 2005, 04:19 PM Wrote:oh hell, we're screwed regardless, I'm voting bloc.
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LMAO puppet........................ :lol:


well IMO,

Bloc party are communists no other description better describes them, they want to destroy our great country, and not to mention they've done jack for Quebec, other then make it more isolated then it already was.

PC party I'd have to be legally dead before I'd vote for them, their views on everything I feel are totally wrong, and too Americanized, not to mention Stephen Harper is very George Bush in his style of running things, not to mention the official party I feel is way out of date with everyday Canadians who tend to be middle class / low income.

NDP / NPD 's Jack Layton I feel is somewhat in tunned with lower income people, but they never learn, and it's why NDP was voted out of office in Ontario after they more or less led us into a rescission. The party's view are not all bad but they really lack in sticking with their own agenda, and they are too union friendly.

Liberals - I admit, I have voted for them since I turned legal age to vote, and I like quite a bit of where they stand on unity of Canada, and I know they have dragged their feet over this short installment with Paul Martin, But to me he really seems like a better choice over the above. I really don't care about the past as to what Jean Cretien did ( ie. sponsorship scandal, etc... ). MOre then likely I'll be voting liberal again.

Green Party. - Hippies.................. all Hippies............. but I like a few of their ideas on making Canada more green friendly, but really who is going to vote one of them into office ? :huh:

all in all though I'd rather see liberals in office again rather then George Bush want to be, or a Communist, or an predictable idiot.

I voted Liberals because even though they're the latest to be PUBLICALLY corrupt, they aren't the first nor last, and at least they're taking the Americans to task regularly over beef and the softwood dispute.

If the PCs get the helm back, everyone in forestry is t3h fUx3d because he'll sweep the matter right under the rug to appease his missle-farming, country-paving friends. Harper's a dangerous man to have in office... he'd sell us out to the States just to be given a governatorial riding somewhere in the deep South by GWB.

NDP? Hell, NO. Unions will then COMPLETELY own the government, and the working professionals of Canada won't let that happen. Canada would become one great big slacker environment, with the odd working professional working as a renegade somewhere in the wilds. *dons flame suit*

I've always thought it was funny that it takes one smooth-talking individual to convince thousands of voting members that they SHOULD vote for this deal because it's good, and then they all vote on it. I thought the NDP was the New Democratic Party... obviously it's fumblespeak for "we're hijacking your vote. remain calm and proceed to the voting booth".

As for the Bloc? Sure.

Like I've always said, how many separatists does it take to change a lightbulb? None. They're happy to separate the bulb from the socket. And that's exactly the amount of thought going into separating from Canada.

Wanna leave? GOOD. Hop the first ship to the motherland and go put out some car fires. Your country needs you.

/end rant. I'm so dead.

I couldn't vote for any of them for the first time I may not vote at all. Sad really that even that out of the three the best one is still not worth my vote. Belinda Stronach for PM!!!

All I care about it getting putting a plan together for the devaluing of the CDN dollar. Let’s get back to a nice safe 40C dollar vs the US and we can all go back to a normal safe economy.

It's scary how little people know about how much this 80+ cent dollar is hurting us.

NOS2Go4Me,Nov 14 2005, 04:59 PM Wrote:I voted Liberals because even though they're the latest to be PUBLICALLY corrupt, they aren't the first nor last, and at least they're taking the Americans to task regularly over beef and the softwood dispute.

:lol: Oh, politics. Nothing like seeing a good fist fight at the pub over politics! :lol:

sorry so what you asking is who is going to steal my money for the next couple of year?

damn them all. i worked in QP they are all the same s**t different colour. they all lie to your face until they get the position and then they go back to stealing or screwing your taxes.

... I hear the liberals want to implement a MASSIVE tax cut...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20051114/ca...a/fiscal_update



"OTTAWA (CP) - A Liberal government on day-to-day life support rolled out six years worth of largesse Monday, hoping $29 billion in promised tax cuts will help Canadian voters forget the sponsorship scandal. "


Highlights of the federal fiscal update:

-Immediate $500 increase to the basic personal amount of income all Canadians can earn without paying federal tax

-Lowest income tax rate drops one percentage point to 15 per cent, retroactive to last Jan. 1.

-The changes mean a two-income family of four earning $60,000 would pay $499 less in taxes for 2005.

-One percentage point reduction to each of the middle tax rates by 2010.

-Increase in the income level at which the top tax rate applies, starting in 2010.

-A Working Income Tax Benefit for low-income earners starting in 2008.

-Elimination of the federal capital tax for business next year - two years ahead of schedule.

-Forecast surplus of $13.4 billion for 2005-06 to be trimmed to $1.6 billion after taking into account tax cuts, energy rebate, new spending and the contingency reserve.

-Forecast surplus of $96.8 billion over six years to be trimmed to $15.5 billion after tax cuts, new spending, contingency reserve and other factors.

-Economy forecast to grow by 2.8 per cent this year, 2.9 per cent next year, and 3.1 per cent in 2007.



Crazyness.

why do so many non-quebecans want to vote for the Bloq quebecois?

To be blunt this question is like asking:

"Would you rather be shot in the head or take bullets somewhere south of the equator?"

NDP - Jack Layton has proved to the entire country what I learned about him when he was merely a councillor in Toronto. He's an opportunstic, bloodsucking little leetch who will do or say anything to make sure that his agenda gets promoted (So what makes him different from any other politican I hear you asking? :P )

If Jack Layton wouldn't have held a gun to Martin's head knowing that the Liberals would be found dirty in the AdScam scandal for his support and then distanced himself when the stench from Gomery hit the fan like Martin was contagious. I would have respected him at least for sticking to a principle. Sorry "Smilin' Jack" but you've got all the moral fibre of a soggy noodle.

Bloc Quebecous - Giles Duceppe here is a man that's truly frightening, after a rather inauspicous beginning (Remember the picture of him with the hairnet?) he's emerged from behind the shadow of Lucien Bouchard to become a credible political leader.

But for the fact that he espouses the destruction of Canada in a mad attempt to gain Quebec's independance I'd vote for him. He stays on message, delivers the message consistantly and actually believes what he's saying. A winning combination, just not with those goals...

Liberals - Paul Martin god how has destroyed any faith I had in the Liberal Party, let me count the ways. The man was so blinded by ambition to become PM that he systemtically took control of the party at the grass roots forcing a sitting PM out to pasture on Martin's terms.

Next Martin systemically purged the party of any credible alternatives to himself, turning the leadership race into a glorified coronation and then says he "knew nothing about" the mechanations of AdScam, despite the fact that he was finance minister during this time? C'mon, the Canadian public are not that stupid.

Martin has governed simply by putting the fear of the Conservative boogeyman into the hearts of Canadians and with the latest "mini-budget" sets about winning re-election again by bribing us with our own money (the pittance that it is)

Conservative Party - Stephen Harper the man is as exciting as a bone stock Ford Focus sedan and has rogue elements within his party that he seems unable (or unwilling) to squelch (Not being as ruthless as either Martin or Layton apparently) but frankly if that's the only negative thing I can find to say about him, that's a damn sight better than the other options... He was even willing to trigger an election but for Smilin' Jack sticking the knife in his back when the time came to cast votes...

Executive Summary - Stephen Harper... its time for a real change, not pocket change...

NefCanuck

If any of you have ever met Jack Layton or his lovely dipshite wife Olivia Chow, you would never consider voting for them.. And for those of you who know my strongish union affiliations, I would vote Conservative.

Voting for a seperate Alberta! Try running your country without us carrying the load! :D

Here's the thing... the PCs have no idea what to do with the country. The first thing Harper would do is consult with his hunting / golfing buddy, GWB. They'd likely be discussing the terms of handing us over to the Americans. High dollar or low dollar? It won't matter, we'll be Americans.

At least the Liberals are attempting to stop the drain of skilled and professional minds to the south. I disagree with private funding (ala mortgages) for public institutions, but that's it.

The NDP can suck my left nut. The right one's reserved for the PCs.

If you guys think the Liberals are bad, wait till Layton steps up.

02ztsian,Nov 15 2005, 10:48 AM Wrote:Voting for a seperate Alberta! Try running your country without us carrying the load! :D
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and when you're on your own, you can get invaded by the US, and we'll just stand at the border, pointing and laughing.

I'm amazed at how self-centered pretty much every province is in Canada. Quebec thinks it's all about them.. Toronto thinks it's all about them, and Alberta thinks it's all about them...

hell, why be a country at all?

darkpuppet,Nov 15 2005, 11:23 AM Wrote:hell, why be a country at all?
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:lol: so true...

Flofocus,Nov 15 2005, 10:24 AM Wrote:

darkpuppet,Nov 15 2005, 11:23 AM Wrote:hell, why be a country at all?
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:lol: so true...
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It's getting so bad, I almost don't care what happens. As long as I have a job and we have a house and we're paying off debt... what can you do?

Alberta wants to separate, and barring the UN actually doing something, and that guarantees immediate invasion by America for the oil and wood.

Quebec wants to separate - there goes wood, hydroelectric power, and mining.

The east coast threw a fit over "equalization" - uhm, fish? :huh:

More needs to be done to foster a sense of being one country, and less about breaking off and wounding the rest of the contintent. Because that's exactly what will happen.

It's CANADA, dammit. Welcome to Canada. If you're not a Canadian, get the damn out.

hmm... if I had to choose right now it would be NDP. I really don't like any of them. If we could maybe try communism, that would definetly put a spin on things