http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/vehicles/...h_0726cars.html
1. Buick Rendezvous
2. Ford Ranger/Mazda B-Series
3. Nissan Frontier
4. Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner
5. Toyota Yaris
6. Hyundai Accent
7. Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe
8. Kia Rio
9. Chevrolet Aveo
10. Suzuki Reno/Forenza
11. Ford Focus
12. Jeep Liberty
13. Dodge Dakota
14. Chevrolet Cobalt/Pontiac G5
15. Nissan Xterra
16. Saturn ION
17. Chrysler PT Cruiser
18. Honda S2000
19. Toyota Scion tC
20. Mazda3
Didn't have time to read the whole thing ... but I bet the numbers they compiled on Focus were without side air bags ... and as they say in their first paragraph the lack of protection from side impact was one of the primary factors in being "more dangerous" ... I'd bet that Focus with side air bags wouldn't have made that list.
The last 5 of my 7 Focus have all been ordered with side air bags.
Flofocus,Jul 27 2007, 12:36 PM Wrote:http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/vehicles/...h_0726cars.html
1. Buick Rendezvous
2. Ford Ranger/Mazda B-Series
3. Nissan Frontier
4. Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner
5. Toyota Yaris
6. Hyundai Accent
7. Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe
8. Kia Rio
9. Chevrolet Aveo
10. Suzuki Reno/Forenza
11. Ford Focus
12. Jeep Liberty
13. Dodge Dakota
14. Chevrolet Cobalt/Pontiac G5
15. Nissan Xterra
16. Saturn ION
17. Chrysler PT Cruiser
18. Honda S2000
19. Toyota Scion tC
20. Mazda3
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i'd still buy S2000 without thinking twice
notice how almost all of those cars are small, or tiny.
Quote:This illustrates a key point: Simply looking at the historical death rates for one particular model might not give much insight into the relative danger, or safety, of driving that vehicle. Furthermore, the most recent available federal data, interpreted by make and model by the IIHS, covers 2001 to 2004 model years in calendar years 2002 to 2005. Many models have had significant changes in safety equipment or complete redesigns since then.
Also noted in the article, it doesn't account for age group. ie the Focus would on average be driven by younger, less experienced drivers. Based on some of the accidents I read here, that would be true.
OAC_Sparky,Jul 27 2007, 01:39 PM Wrote:Quote:This illustrates a key point: Simply looking at the historical death rates for one particular model might not give much insight into the relative danger, or safety, of driving that vehicle. Furthermore, the most recent available federal data, interpreted by make and model by the IIHS, covers 2001 to 2004 model years in calendar years 2002 to 2005. Many models have had significant changes in safety equipment or complete redesigns since then.
Also noted in the article, it doesn't account for age group. ie the Focus would on average be driven by younger, less experienced drivers. Based on some of the accidents I read here, that would be true.
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Its does actually mention that....specifically about the 350z though.
Frost__2001,Jul 27 2007, 10:54 AM Wrote:notice how almost all of those cars are small, or tiny.
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I noticed that right away, almost all are compact entry level vehicles. I guess young or fuel concious people don't derserve air bags. :(
I stupidly realized they weren't in the new car after we bought it. From the hits I've seen 1st gens take on here... I have to say I'm honestly not that worried. I've been in a"whoa, you walked away from that without a scratch?!?!?" accident before where the car was a write-off and I was more pissed than anything. It all comes down to design and a healthy dose of LUCK. Remember that second part. ;)
NikiterZTS,Jul 27 2007, 12:48 PM Wrote:i'd still buy S2000 without thinking twice
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I have a friend with one for sale right now. Just over $22k. Mint.
Heres the funny part about this for me:
My Car: 2000 Focus ZX3
Mom's: 2004 Rendezvous
Dad's: 2007 Cobalt SS Non-SC
And, None of us would give up our cars for anything else
meford4u,Jul 27 2007, 08:11 PM Wrote:NikiterZTS,Jul 27 2007, 12:48 PM Wrote:i'd still buy S2000 without thinking twice
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I have a friend with one for sale right now. Just over $22k. Mint.
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nice
now i just need another 20K
NikiterZTS,Jul 27 2007, 11:21 PM Wrote:nice
now i just need another 20K
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:lol:
NikiterZTS,Jul 27 2007, 11:21 PM Wrote:meford4u,Jul 27 2007, 08:11 PM Wrote:NikiterZTS,Jul 27 2007, 12:48 PM Wrote:i'd still buy S2000 without thinking twice
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I have a friend with one for sale right now. Just over $22k. Mint.
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nice
now i just need another 20K
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payday loan? It's only 19% :lol:
lol....faaaawk that
i think im gonna stick with the Focus for another 2 years
thats fawked how the escape made that list like last year a local went head on with a tractor trailer and walked away without a scratch he thanked the escape and now thats all he will drive or buy.
These statistics are probably taken on vehicles that are bone stock, with no options. What's scary to me is the "best car" company has one of it's NEWER vehicles on it. The Yaris. The new Focus is supposed to have air bags all around, I think, even though it looks like .... it still is an improvement in some ways over the present Focus, in my humble opinion. The Escape and the Ranger are old platforms also.
No S197 Mustangs on that list woot woot!
what a load of crap. I've owned 3 rangers and 2 Bronco II's, they are plenty safe....