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Quote:This fall BMW is going to launch many changes to the current MINI lineup that will result in increased fuel-efficiency across all models. The changes will result in increased engine performance and fuel efficiency all without the use of hybrid technology or alternative fuels.

The new MINIs will start to be produced in August 2007 and will feature many technological features such as: Brake Energy Regeneration, Auto Start-Stop Function, and Switch Point Display. The new features will be standard and will improve the fuel-efficiency and emissions performance, while not affecting the overall performance of the car.

The new features will come at no extra cost to buyers.

The MINI Cooper D, which currently achieves 64.2 mpg will be bumped up to 72.4 mpg with the new technology.

Let's hope this new technology will be on the models designated for the US!
mmm, not sure if its going to make it to NA Will all the changes in 07 with Diesel fuel its making it very hard to come accros. i think its the same reason why WV gave up in NA as well.
mo_focus,May 27 2007, 06:09 PM Wrote:mmm, not sure if its going to make it to NA Will all the changes in 07 with Diesel fuel its making it very hard to come accros. i think its the same reason why WV gave up in NA as well.
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Actually VW is still selling TDI's, and as of next year they will have bluetech diesel engines like Daimler Chrysler.

not to mention it but the VW Lopo TDI gets round the 75 MPG. Jeramy Clarkson pointed that out several times on his test drive of the Prius, and on the Lupo head to head chalange.
yeah.. the new diesel regulations put us more inline with european standards... so it's actually better for diesels now.

Also, I guess we should keep in mind that 74MPG UK is different than 74MPG US...

I think 1 british gallon is 4.7L, while 1 US gallon is 3.8L
darkpuppet,May 27 2007, 08:51 PM Wrote:yeah.. the new diesel regulations put us more inline with european standards... so it's actually better for diesels now.

Also, I guess we should keep in mind that 74MPG UK is different than 74MPG US...

I think 1 british gallon is 4.7L, while 1 US gallon is 3.8L
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Imperial Gallons are 4.54 litres. the same size as Canadian (Imperial) gallons.
I stand corrected. me memory isn't as good as it once was.. :(
darkpuppet,May 27 2007, 09:24 PM Wrote:I stand corrected.  me memory isn't as good as it once was.. :(
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Wait until you're my age..
Frost__2001,May 28 2007, 12:41 AM Wrote:
mo_focus,May 27 2007, 06:09 PM Wrote:mmm, not sure if its going to make it to NA Will all the changes in 07 with Diesel fuel its making it very hard to come accros. i think its the same reason why WV gave up in NA as well.
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Actually VW is still selling TDI's, and as of next year they will have bluetech diesel engines like Daimler Chrysler.

not to mention it but the VW Lopo TDI gets round the 75 MPG. Jeramy Clarkson pointed that out several times on his test drive of the Prius, and on the Lupo head to head chalange.
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have you ever read the fine print on WV site? TDI's are selling as 06 models still. IN US only i think. Bc 07 rules are very strick. They brought tons of 07 models and labeled them as 06's and selling them as a leftover cars. :)
Here is the claim from VW.com site " **Volkswagen TDI models are equipped with a diesel engine and are not available in ME, VT, MA, NY or CA. APR offer good on select 2006 models. Offer ends May 31, 2007. Limited inventory. "

Also on the Vw.com site you can not find 07 TDI's anymore. I guess canada will follow soon, but hopefully the new Diesel engines will come from europe. I know MB has some in the works and I think the Jeep is going to use one as well.
mo_focus,May 27 2007, 10:13 PM Wrote:
Frost__2001,May 28 2007, 12:41 AM Wrote:
mo_focus,May 27 2007, 06:09 PM Wrote:mmm, not sure if its going to make it to NA Will all the changes in 07 with Diesel fuel its making it very hard to come accros. i think its the same reason why WV gave up in NA as well.
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Actually VW is still selling TDI's, and as of next year they will have bluetech diesel engines like Daimler Chrysler.

not to mention it but the VW Lopo TDI gets round the 75 MPG. Jeramy Clarkson pointed that out several times on his test drive of the Prius, and on the Lupo head to head chalange.
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have you ever read the fine print on WV site? TDI's are selling as 06 models still. IN US only i think. Bc 07 rules are very strick. They brought tons of 07 models and labeled them as 06's and selling them as a leftover cars. :)
Here is the claim from VW.com site " **Volkswagen TDI models are equipped with a diesel engine and are not available in ME, VT, MA, NY or CA. APR offer good on select 2006 models. Offer ends May 31, 2007. Limited inventory. "

Also on the Vw.com site you can not find 07 TDI's anymore. I guess canada will follow soon, but hopefully the new Diesel engines will come from europe. I know MB has some in the works and I think the Jeep is going to use one as well.
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the VW is making a new line-up of TDI's. before it used to be 1.9 that they were putting in a Jetta/Golf now the 2.0 TDI (wich is availble now in Passat) is going to replace it. Thats what I was told at Volkswagen Villa - they expect them either in October this year or early spring '08

Damn, I wish Diesel Foci was available in Canada. Rented one last summer during my vacation - amazing car. Euro Foci rules!
the diesel i am looking forward to is 335d.. 286hp 428ftlb.. drool!! its gonna accelerate like a real car!!!
naz,May 28 2007, 05:47 AM Wrote:the diesel i am looking forward to is 335d.. 286hp 428ftlb.. drool!! its gonna accelerate like a real car!!!
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a real car with a 5000RPM redline...
darkpuppet,May 28 2007, 08:28 AM Wrote:
naz,May 28 2007, 05:47 AM Wrote:the diesel i am looking forward to is 335d.. 286hp 428ftlb.. drool!! its gonna accelerate like a real car!!!
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a real car with a 5000RPM redline...
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So it's gonna be like a VW Rabbit with a lower redline and more torque? :lol:
Hopefully like the rest of the new engines that they're putting on the MINI's this new diesel is being sourced from Peugeot and not Toyota like the previous version.

Laterz :)
darkpuppet,May 28 2007, 12:28 PM Wrote:
naz,May 28 2007, 05:47 AM Wrote:the diesel i am looking forward to is 335d.. 286hp 428ftlb.. drool!! its gonna accelerate like a real car!!!
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a real car with a 5000RPM redline...
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with all that torque on tap i dont think the low redline will be a problem.

i wonder if that thing is even coming to NA in the first place.. the interweb is giving me conflicting reports

you guys sound more excited about a 110hp mini than a 286hp bmw?
naz,May 28 2007, 03:50 PM Wrote:
darkpuppet,May 28 2007, 12:28 PM Wrote:
naz,May 28 2007, 05:47 AM Wrote:the diesel i am looking forward to is 335d.. 286hp 428ftlb.. drool!! its gonna accelerate like a real car!!!
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a real car with a 5000RPM redline...
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with all that torque on tap i dont think the low redline will be a problem.

i wonder if that thing is even coming to NA in the first place.. the interweb is giving me conflicting reports

you guys sound more excited about a 110hp mini than a 286hp bmw?
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They drive focus', what do you expect. :ph34r:
zx4_ses,May 28 2007, 07:33 AM Wrote:
mo_focus,May 27 2007, 10:13 PM Wrote:
Frost__2001,May 28 2007, 12:41 AM Wrote:
mo_focus,May 27 2007, 06:09 PM Wrote:mmm, not sure if its going to make it to NA Will all the changes in 07 with Diesel fuel its making it very hard to come accros. i think its the same reason why WV gave up in NA as well.
[right][snapback]239687[/snapback][/right]

Actually VW is still selling TDI's, and as of next year they will have bluetech diesel engines like Daimler Chrysler.

not to mention it but the VW Lopo TDI gets round the 75 MPG. Jeramy Clarkson pointed that out several times on his test drive of the Prius, and on the Lupo head to head chalange.
[right][snapback]239699[/snapback][/right]

have you ever read the fine print on WV site? TDI's are selling as 06 models still. IN US only i think. Bc 07 rules are very strick. They brought tons of 07 models and labeled them as 06's and selling them as a leftover cars. :)
Here is the claim from VW.com site " **Volkswagen TDI models are equipped with a diesel engine and are not available in ME, VT, MA, NY or CA. APR offer good on select 2006 models. Offer ends May 31, 2007. Limited inventory. "

Also on the Vw.com site you can not find 07 TDI's anymore. I guess canada will follow soon, but hopefully the new Diesel engines will come from europe. I know MB has some in the works and I think the Jeep is going to use one as well.
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the VW is making a new line-up of TDI's. before it used to be 1.9 that they were putting in a Jetta/Golf now the 2.0 TDI (wich is availble now in Passat) is going to replace it. Thats what I was told at Volkswagen Villa - they expect them either in October this year or early spring '08

Damn, I wish Diesel Foci was available in Canada. Rented one last summer during my vacation - amazing car. Euro Foci rules!
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Yeah so for 2007 there is no Jetta, Rabbit or Beetle TDI models being sold by Volkswagen.

The 2008 Jetta TDI, Volkswagen developed a new 2.0-liter diesel engine that is clean enough for 50-state certification without the use of urea injection, which is no small feat. It does so by extensively treating exhaust gases with catalysts and particulate filters. The engine develops 140 horsepower and a robust 240 ft-lbs. of twist.

i think the new MB does inject the waste with urea injection, but i guess VW is going to do it differently.
Naz you should watch the episode of Top Gear where they featured that BMW.
now where is my turbo diesel focus.
^^ I would have bought one, even at a premium over the gas ZX5. Even if it was just to chip it. :D

I have a problem - I can't leave s*** stock!
screw TDI's or gas hybrids, i want a full diesel hybrid. they should be able to cobble one together with 85mpg. I would buy that in a heartbeat, then turn my focus into a real race car, or keep it as a weekend warrior.
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