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Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - ZTWsquared - 10-18-2006

I've never heard of this before ... does this not open up a whole new realm of possibilities in terms of diagnosing driveability concerns?

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2006-2007 Fusion 2.3L - Intermittent Crank-No-Start with Various DTCs Stored In Memory


Some 2006-2007 Fusion vehicles built with a 2.3L engine and built before 9/28/2006 may exhibit an intermittent crank no start along with a Passive Anti Theft System (PATS) light flashing during cranking and various codes stored in memory.

The root cause has been found to be related to radio interference related to a shopping cart antitheft device installed at some 99 cent or Dollar store parking lots in the state of California.

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Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - crazikev - 10-18-2006

pwned by a shopping cart! :lol:


Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - NefCanuck - 10-18-2006

and a lot of shopping centres in my area are adding those carts that lock up when they lose the radio signal :huh:

That'd be the ultimate burn. Everyone who goes to shop there, ends up STAYING there forever! :lol:

NefCanuck


Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - darkpuppet - 10-18-2006

NefCanuck,Oct 17 2006, 04:47 PM Wrote:and a lot of shopping centres in my area are adding those carts that lock up when they lose the radio signal :huh:

That'd be the ultimate burn.  Everyone who goes to shop there, ends up STAYING there forever! :lol:

NefCanuck
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I'm all for it.

as I was watching out the cafeteria window as some idiot shoppers disposed of their broken umbrella and shopping cart, and I watched helplessly as the slope and wind pushed the cart towards my unsuspecting car.

Thankfully there was a big puddle and curbing to slow the cart's progress. The fully open (but bent) umbrella went bouncing off of cars in the opposite direction as it caught the wind.


Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - habmann - 10-18-2006

Well thankfully the cart didn't hit your car.

This is just another sign of the way things are going to start going i think. As more and more things begin to incorporate electronics into them, the interferrence with other things will also occur. Unfortunately even if you test your product to make sure it isn't affected by other electronic devices, new devices are always coming out that could affect it.


Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - NefCanuck - 10-18-2006

darkpuppet,Oct 17 2006, 05:20 PM Wrote:
NefCanuck,Oct 17 2006, 04:47 PM Wrote:and a lot of shopping centres in my area are adding those carts that lock up when they lose the radio signal :huh:

That'd be the ultimate burn.  Everyone who goes to shop there, ends up STAYING there forever! :lol:

NefCanuck
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I'm all for it.

as I was watching out the cafeteria window as some idiot shoppers disposed of their broken umbrella and shopping cart, and I watched helplessly as the slope and wind pushed the cart towards my unsuspecting car.

Thankfully there was a big puddle and curbing to slow the cart's progress. The fully open (but bent) umbrella went bouncing off of cars in the opposite direction as it caught the wind.
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Hey you don't see me disagreeing DP. One of the biggest problems we have is idiots who drag their shopping carts home with them with their grocerices and then leave the things littered all over the property and then the buildings staff have to deal with it <_<

Now the local Real Canadian Superstore installed that system last month and the carts we used to have all over the property from there dissapeared. Now if only the Shoppers Drug Mart across from my building would get getserious in dealing with these morons :rolleyes:

As for carts heading twoards your car, dude parking in a disabled parking spot is like painting a giant "HIT ME" sign on your car :ph34r: I've had to take one for the car on occassion when its windy enough :D

NefCanuck


Too Wierd - Parking Lot Causes Hard Start - NOS2Go4Me - 10-18-2006

I routinely park higher up in the parking garage at the mall simply because carts are evil and travel in packs (thanks to their lazy-ass owners). Thankfully they're also lethargic and never make it past the second level. :lol: