[darkpuppet]

BrooksZX3,Nov 4 2004, 09:16 PM Wrote:

darkpuppet,Nov 4 2004, 04:02 PM Wrote:that's funny.. I thought this box was a replacement to the SCT Pro Racer package from what I read here...

wow... did you read all the posts Steve?

well, here's where my reasoning comes in

Quote:First the topic reads SCT Flasher

like that little blue thing that came with my pro racer package?

Quote:Second "Yes the SCT flasher holds up to 3 programs as well as the factory tune"

Once again that little blue thing with the arrows and screen that comes with the pro-racer package?

Quote:Third "I think it's also important to distinguish between to notions here... The tuning is performed by a TUNER, using their proprietary software.

tuning by software...like the pro-racer package?

Quote:That program is saved and loaded into the flashing device (XCalibrator). The flashing device hooks up to the computer and installs the program.

so I make my tune on the pro-racer package, and program into one of the 3 slots on my hand held flasher. Then flash the car via the OBDII port

Quote:The DRIVER can switch between the different programs by a dial."

if it's flashing via the OBDII port, the changing of tunes would be happening while the car is stopped, and the box is temporarily plugged in, right? and that means the dial is just a replacement for the arrows on the handheld flasher for the SCT Pro Racer package.

Does this eliminate the 6 minutes to flash the handheld unit, and then the other 6 minutes of reflashing the car?

Quote:Fourth "Don't forget guys that we're talking about two things here... the flasher and the tuning software. The flasher is just a box and a couple buttons/LEDs. The meat and potatoes is the tuning software and the tuner"

kinda like the pro-racer package....

Quote:I appologize if I come off strong here Steve but sheesh...  Here are Meister's comments regarding stand alone.

(in ref to the newest unreleased model as mentioned) "The 9300 Xcalibrator will be able to read and clear trouble codes and it will come with a "standalone" pc software called quicktune that allows the customer to make minimal changes to the tune written and provided to him/her by the tuner"

"The standalone software on your PC allows you to open the tune I have written and make small changes like turning off o2 sensors, SMALL timing adjustments, small adjustments to the transfer functions, etc."

So where exactly is the confusion?  Sorry, I just feel as though I'm having to repeat myself... repeat myself... repeat myself...

ok... so it's like the Pro Racer package, but with more limited software?

See, here's the thing.. I assumed that the SCT dealer tuning solution was basically the pro-racer package bundled with an open license and allowing the dealer to buy extra handheld flashers to program their cars.

Because I can do that. You buy a handheld flasher, and I can do a full custom tune.

That's why I could have sworn we were talking about a replacement for the pro-racer package, but there is one thing that meister did bring up, and that this new solution provides capability to make small adjustments... but no mention if this allows total control over the ECU, or just fine tuning of a subset of EEC functions?

which makes me ask the next question... If this is the Next Big Thing for shop dyno tuning, what makes it better than a shop license on the pro-racer package and a box of handheld flashers? I know it's great because it works with any ford ECU, but is that at the cost of total tuning flexibility?

please don't get me wrong, I'm not picking on you, or trying to be annoying.. the similarities between the two are real.

So when you compare the two side by side this new tuning solution is basically a limited pro-racer tuning package with a new handheld flasher that can do any ford car. This is good for those waiting for SVT tuning, and if the Diablo is the same thing... then I'd trust SCT over Diablo.