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NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - darkpuppet - 03-11-2011
Anyone else think this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion?
I didn't think the hit was intentional... other than the interference, but a lot of folks, including Air Canada seem to be taking it a bit more seriously.
what are your thoughts?
might want to say if you're a canadiens fan or not...
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - habmann - 03-11-2011
I am a Canadians Fan, first off.
Personally I don't think that the hit was dirty or malicious.......but I still think Chara should have gotten some form of suspension.
Just because it was intentional, ultimately what he did caused severe harm to another player. The NHL needs to crack down on all things intentional or unintentional that cause severe injury to its players. If the players won't act in a way that respects each other, the NHL needs to step in.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - NikiterZTS - 03-11-2011
It's hockey, it's fast. Can't predict every next move.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - darkpuppet - 03-11-2011
gotta admit, this photo is pretty damning...
![[Image: 254950972.jpg]](http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/sparks1919/2nd%20set%20of%20pics/254950972.jpg)
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - ANTHONYD - 03-11-2011
Awesome.
Let him bust up a few more habs.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - 02ztsian - 03-11-2011
I think he knew exactly what he was doing-drive him hard into the stanchion. They all know where those stanchions are.
I'm sure Chara didn't intend to break his neck but he sure meant to direct him into it.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - smith21 - 03-11-2011
Puppet your right...this is getting WAY out of hand. Talks of police being brought into the situation and Air Canada threatening to drop their contract with the NHL. It's the game people, the players get on the ice knowing damn well that ANYTHING can happen. So Chara hit him into the stanchions, could have been on purpose or could have been a fluke. Thing is, that's the way the game has come to be. It's no longer a game of Wayne Gretzky's or Rocket Richards. It's not a game of who can hit the hardest and fight the most. And if the NHL was so against people hitting the stanchions, board up around the whole rink...
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Flofocus - 03-12-2011
(03-11-2011, 12:24 PM)02ztsian Wrote: I think he knew exactly what he was doing-drive him hard into the stanchion. They all know where those stanchions are.
I'm sure Chara didn't intend to break his neck but he sure meant to direct him into it.
I'm with ya 100%. Chara knew exactly what he was doing. He had Max's number since the little shove he gave him 3 games ago after scoring the OT goal. Did he intent to break his neck? no. Did he intent to put him into the post. f**k yeah he did.
Cant wait to see the Bruins in the playoffs. Karma is a bitch.
I hope Air Canada calls Betmans bluff, that guy is a fawkin idiot and destroying the NHL.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Oscar The Grouch - 03-12-2011
Bettman's a weasel who should have been voted out by the owners a long time ago.
But yeah Chara should be suspended at least 3 games. Looks like he meant it.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - SVT ZX3 - 03-12-2011
(03-12-2011, 12:11 AM)Flofocus Wrote: Karma is a bitch.
It sure is, isn't it?...Maybe Max shouldn't have shoved Chara after that goal a couple of game ago...
This is getting overblown due to the severity of the injury, and would the injury have been so bad if it was a normal size human being instead of Chara riding him in to the stantion?
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - tetra - 03-12-2011
What's blown out of proportion is Montreal wanting a criminal investigation.. No other city would do this.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Mystake - 03-12-2011
Alrite; here's my two cents. First, I am a Leafs fan.
Second; majority of penalties in the NHL aren't given based on intent, but on aftermath. High sticking, slashing, tripping. They don't need intent to penalize the player.
Chara pretty much ended someone's career with that hit. I too believe that Chara knew exactly where that stanchion was; they are trained, professional players. It is their business to know these things. I'm sure Chara wanted pacio to get shaken up, just not as injured as he ended up being.
However, as I said, the NHL doesn't penalize on the ice based on intent, so why should this be any different? The NHL needs to discourage these types of hits.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Flofocus - 03-13-2011
(03-12-2011, 01:36 AM)SVT ZX3 Wrote: It sure is, isn't it?...Maybe Max shouldn't have shoved Chara after that goal a couple of game ago...
So Chara breaks his neck? Sorry - that isn't Karma. Thats lack of respect for your opponent.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - moon111 - 03-13-2011
I've met a few former AHLers who didn't make it. One thing they had in common was they had respect or couldn't handle other players who didn't have respect for anyone. The NHL is a dirty, dirty business. It always has been. I've said in the past these posts were a complete safety hazard. There's got to be a better way. Same goes for player's equipment. NHL gear has gotten worst in allot of areas, and that's scary considering where it came from. Chara did his job. If someone thinks for one minute players will all of a sudden 'respect' each other, you're delusional.
Go Leafs Go!!!
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - ANTHONYD - 03-13-2011
Don't make us go into all the bullshit "questionable" crap your beloved homos in red have done over the years. If I had a dollar for every Hab I watched drill someone from behind, fake a bullshit injury, do something stupid or try to kill someone....
Chara never meant to break the guys neck. His intention was to deliver a hit that would take his opponent out of the play. Chara can't help that he's 6'9" and a behemoth. It was a good hit. Youy buddy's head just happened to meet up with the perfectly placed partition.
If it was the other away around, you guys would be parading in the streets setting fires to police cars while waving your toilet seat flags.
Stop crying.
Your reaction is typical.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - GFXjamie - 03-13-2011
btw, NHL made a decision on the matter, just game misconduct and interference, nothing further to come to zdeno chara for the hit
at the end of the day, its a game, the players know what can and will happen. wrong place at the wrong time for pacioretty.
from the video, looked like a good hit, a little late but he got his point across. bad spot to get hit on the ice tho
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Flofocus - 03-14-2011
(03-13-2011, 07:43 AM)ANTHONYD Wrote: Don't make us go into all the bullshit "questionable" crap your beloved homos in red have done over the years. If I had a dollar for every Hab I watched drill someone from behind, fake a bullshit injury, do something stupid or try to kill someone....
Puh-lease
everything you just said, can be said about the leafs, or any other team.Quote:Chara never meant to break the guys neck. His intention was to deliver a hit that would take his opponent out of the play
See my post above, I agree that he never intended to break his neck, but 100% he intended to take his head out into the post. He did exactly what you said, took his guy out. With a cheap shot.
(03-13-2011, 06:21 AM)moon111 Wrote: If someone thinks for one minute players will all of a sudden 'respect' each other, you're delusional.
Many respect eachother. Many choose ot pick the high road when given the chance to absolutely demolish someone. Malkin is 1 of them.
The only thing delusional is leafs fans thinking your team is going to make the playoffs.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Mystake - 03-14-2011
(03-14-2011, 03:32 AM)Flofocus Wrote:(03-13-2011, 07:43 AM)ANTHONYD Wrote: Don't make us go into all the bullshit "questionable" crap your beloved homos in red have done over the years. If I had a dollar for every Hab I watched drill someone from behind, fake a bullshit injury, do something stupid or try to kill someone....
Puh-leaseeverything you just said, can be said about the leafs, or any other team.
Quote:Chara never meant to break the guys neck. His intention was to deliver a hit that would take his opponent out of the play
See my post above, I agree that he never intended to break his neck, but 100% he intended to take his head out into the post. He did exactly what you said, took his guy out. With a cheap shot.
(03-13-2011, 06:21 AM)moon111 Wrote: If someone thinks for one minute players will all of a sudden 'respect' each other, you're delusional.
Many respect eachother. Many choose ot pick the high road when given the chance to absolutely demolish someone. Malkin is 1 of them.
The only thing delusional is leafs fans thinking your team is going to make the playoffs.
You must be a Sens fan. Still butthurt over Fisher getting traded away? How about being bottom of the league, below the edmonton oilers??
During the game yesterday (leafs won too), CBC announcers showed a whole bunch of other hits where people were driven into the stanchion. It's common, very, very common from the looks of it. Pacioretty just got unlucky.
However I stand by my original statement that intent shouldn't, but results should be used as the basis for a penalty.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - Flofocus - 03-14-2011
(03-14-2011, 04:01 AM)Mystake Wrote: You must be a Sens fan.
Fawk no.
Blue, Blanc et Rouge Tabernak.
RE: NHL: Chara's hit on Pacioretty - NefCanuck - 03-14-2011
Here's the problem with all the people saying that Chara intended to drive Pacioretty into teh stanchion (Habs fans you may not want to read this 'cause you won't like it)
What are the odds that during a game, that all admit moves damn fast, that Chara could have actually thought far enough ahead and timed his hit on Pacioretty so that he could have slammed him into that stanchion?
I took only a high school level statistics class I admit, but from what I have seen and know, I think it's safe to say that those odds are about as long as me being able to tap dance...
It was an unfortunate hit, a damaging hit, but a purposely timed and executed hit? No way, unless Chara admits to being a calculus genius and even if he says he is, I'd call bullshit.
P.S. why don't Habs fans get on the fact the stanchions at the Bell Centre have almost zero padding?
If the damn things have to be where they are (and Cherry made a great case to show why they don't have to be there) put more padding on the goddamn things
NefCanuck