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darkpuppet,Aug 2 2006, 10:17 PM Wrote:p.s.  The international community needs to step in and start giving israel s*** for their actions. [right][snapback]200622[/snapback][/right]

This for me is the crux of the matter. Israel is in fact the subject of dozens upon dozens of U.N. sanctions - which they ignore. And they get away with it because they have the biggest bully on the block standing behind them.

IMO the U.S. has done more to undermine the value of the U.N. than all so-called rogue states put together - they refuse to pay their dues and they back countries like Israel that don't play by international rules but are immune from consequence because of "who" they know.

Old but succinct article about UN sanctions against Israel

But to Meford's point - not all Jews agree with the Israeli government's position. Unfortunately just like their U.S. counterparts, these people are marginalized and called traitors to their faith for pointing out what for a lot of people is the blatant hypocrisy of the official Israeli position.

Check out European Jews for Peace

In any event - sometime in my lifetime China will become the equal of the U.S. both militarily and economically -- and when that happens you will see a major shift in the way the world works.

China will have an increasing stake in what happens in the middle east as their demand for oil increases, and using the American model for projecting power they will claim the right to influence what happens there.

Unfortanately for the Israeli's the Chinese have no domestic groundswell of support for the Jewish state - and they are more likely to befriend those who actually possess the oil.

That IMO is when you'll see significant change in the middle east - unless Israel decides to use one of their illegal nukes in the meantime. I still stand by my assertion (in another thread) that the next nuclear weapon used will be Israeli.